Yeah, I know you all knew I'd bring it here. WHAT OF IT? I am happy to bring this discussion here. Heehee Come on in!!!! (you DID bring me coffee right???)
29 comments not likely but I DO know that most of you know me a bit better than a comment might read to a stranger.
That part does make me sad because people are SO freaky about the woman/bible thing that if they do not KNOW me than they could not read my comments from a true perspective. I tried very hard to come across loving which I am..but still it is hard to do when someone does not KNOW you!
Ya'll feel free to say anything you want here without holding back.
I will say these things:
In no way did I mean NOR did I say or even allude to the statement made that just because you have a child out of wedlock then you have BAD parents. Having GREAT parents does not mean you are properly parented.
Anyone who read my initial comments knows I said that they were better than the alternative so that should be a balm to whoever cannot stand the fact that I don't think a woman belongs there.
Help me see the other side...a woman has 5 kids, one with special needs and one who is pregnant...that doesn't strike anyone as uh, INSANE to try to take on being VP of the USA? What---is it just too good of an opportunity to pass up?
The only idea I thought ridiculous is the idea that we can compare Dad the same as Mom in the VP position. Mom's POSITION and ROLE (after God) is to her husband and family FIRST. Can she be VP and fulfill her first calling? Comparing a male President's interaction with their children against a female's just doesn't work. One is called to be her husband's Helpmeet and one is called to lead. It is clear. We do not negate the importance of Dad by rightly defining roles...otherwise, WHO will be president? Are we saying it is of equal detriment to the family if one or the other takes a leadership position? Man, I hope not.
Also- we all are "good parents" right? But there are varying degrees of effective parenting. Which is why I PROFOUNDLY continue to refuse to teach a parenting class. We all do it differently but the difference is whether someone is ready to do the TOUGH stuff when they need to. Everyone's lines on what is acceptable varies. Some don't mind if junior mouths off, some do. Some don't mind if their daughter wears a skirt that barely covers their butts, some do. On and on it goes. I cannot teach the class because of those lines. When my line is different from someone else's then I am considered JUDGEMENTAL! I am a believer in parental authority! So I cannot teach on it. Women get CRAZY about their kids. I know I do! Those the really know me know we are in LOVE with our kids but more importantly that they are in LOVE with us. NONE of the cliches apply in our family. (teenage years, terrible twos, it's a stage, it's gender related, etc.)
I am NO JUDGE. I am ridiculously worse than ALL of you. I am not just saying that either, I feel I actually I am! BUT--- I am CRYSTAL clear on parenting. Still willing to learn, to listen, and to change but very clear that parenting is a lot more involved than we ever thought.
Teen pregnancy could all but be eliminated if we all followed and taught the biblical model of courtship. All the way to the HEART though...not just a you can- you can't thing.
Having "favorite" people as parents of a child with a child out of wedlock...huh? This has nothing to do with how great people are. People are great. I love people, and honestly the dysfunctional ones are often more likable! Lol (more real and vulnerable)
I myself transitioned hard from a really worldly upbringing and still struggle with it. I think that parenting just really took me to new heights. You cannot play at parenting. There is absolutely nothing worse to me than to see good Christian people raise hellions for children. HOW does that happen? I can tell you, but then you'd WANT to kill me. ;)
But not even hellions. One cannot write off a teen pg as a "fluke". One must ask "Where did I go wrong?" I get that it is not popular by today's standard of "I did the best I could"...but the Truth stands alone even when it is not joined by others.
There is SO MUCH MORE out there for parents. It is right in the bible and available to anyone who wants to hear and then be DOERS of the Word!
These are not my thoughts! These are not my ideas! These are not gray areas! I am not making this up.
These are not my personal beliefs (I mean they are but I did not make them up)
Someone wrote that "In addition to biblical beliefs, it is proven over and over that the influence of a father on the behavior of a daughter is critical."
Danger Will Robinson. Do not add to God's Word. Yet I DO believe that Dad's role is vital in daughter's life. But the roles in this family are reversed. Daughter does not know Dad as strong leader but MOM instead. Dad has become Mom and Mom has become Dad. I know, I know, you think me archaic...but SHE is the head and somehow, some way, something got missed that let this poor child think that sex outside of marriage was ok. Responsibility of the act lies with the daughter but the accomplices are the parents.
And lest you think I am anti-Palin, think again. She is my kinda girl! (Babies Guns and Jesus??? I would carry that bumper sticker any day)
But you just go right ahead and tell me how that Mom could POSSIBLY spend enough time with her family as Vice Pres? With an INFANT????
Of course we don't recall questioning men in leadership...men are SUPPOSED to be in leadership. Sheesh. Get over it ladies. It does not LESSEN you to have them lead. It empowers you with God's blessing you for the honoring of His truth.
Another said: "It is not true that a teenage pregnancy is an indication of poor parenting. When our children are out of our sight, they will make decisions on their own."
Uh... guess what? It is certainly an indication of that! If our children are not making right choices when they are on their own then we can be SURE that:
1) It is too soon for them to be out unsupervised
or
2) We have missed an important teaching to our children.
Sorry folks. But it is true.
It is true that it is not up to us to decide how they raise their family but it IS up to us on how they rule the country. And biblically speaking, those who are considering others for leadership positions are told to look to their families for indication. This is basic biblical teaching people. Let alone that it is referring to men NOT women.
I am the BIGGEST woman lover around. The biblical woman is a force to be reckoned with. But if she is willing to walk away from husband and kids for a career, then you can bet there is a serious role identity problem. YES, she is walking away. If you have any idea how their schedules are run (minute by minute, literally) then you know.
Of course it would stand to reason that she intrigues us. She is gorgeous, has multiple children, and is a gun totin', sling wearing powerhouse. I am familiar with those types of women. Heck, she outshines her running mate: the potential PRESIDENT.
But one must always ask, just because I CAN, does it mean I SHOULD?
If they win, I pray she will serve this country well. But make no mistake, if she does, it will be at the FURTHER sacrifice of her family.
7 comments:
Well said, well thought out and I do most definately think that you say things in a truly loving way, so good for you, because some of us (and I mean me here) don't have that gift.
So are you voting for Obama then?
Woman... you were Spirit led when you wrote this. You just voiced my thoughts. But then again, I did share a 'little' on Tiffany's blog. :o)
Like you Palin is my kinda of gal. God loving, mother of 5, gun toting woman... what's not to love?! We have so much in common! Did I mention that we have a nifty gun collection (in our gun safe of course) and that I'm quite the marksman? No political correctness necessary. :O)
Sorry, had a bad typo...what I said was:
Giselle: Thanks and Yeah, I miss my gun toting counterparts at RBC. All the women there were packing!
Leisa: Are you kidding? :)
What did I miss? What did I miss? What did I miss?!!!!!! Somebody pleeeeeeeeease tell me what I missed!
Crystal, pop over to hillside Hollow, it started there. Just a discussion on Palin which then led to politics in general.
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